Wii-U

[agentkuo]

(08-27-2012 06:36 AM)Skarro Wrote:  

(08-27-2012 02:08 AM)agentkuo Wrote:  You do understand that everything necessary to play GC games is on the Wii-U gamepad and/or the Pro controller, right?
And on that note, you clearly don't own a PS3, because if you did, you would know that the memory card issue is also not an issue, and they could just have digital memory cards.
Your ignorance does not amuse me.

how do you transfer ps2 saves to ps3 legitly? Is it really "backwards compatible" if you can't use your old memory-card? seems closer to emulation.

You don't transfer them. You can't transfer them. That's not what I said or what I'm saying. I'm saying if you can download PS2 games and the PS3 has a digital memory card system that saves the data. You're not gonna be able to transfer your memory card data to the Wii-U. That's not the point. It would be nice, but it wouldn't be smart financially and really isn't that big of a deal.

[Kai]

What I'm looking forward to the most on Wii U is the Miiverse. I'm still a little confused about how it works though. Anyone know if it'll be a network of people around the world or just your friends?

[Sirion]

(08-27-2012 09:47 AM)Kai Wrote:  What I'm looking forward to the most on Wii U is the Miiverse. I'm still a little confused about how it works though. Anyone know if it'll be a network of people around the world or just your friends?

It's kind of a worldwide square, but I think your friends and people who play what you play are easier to find. I like the concept because it kind of graphically shows you how big a community is, rather than simple and boring numbers or figures.

[BumblebeeCody]

(08-27-2012 08:09 AM)agentkuo Wrote:  

(08-27-2012 06:36 AM)Skarro Wrote:  

(08-27-2012 02:08 AM)agentkuo Wrote:  You do understand that everything necessary to play GC games is on the Wii-U gamepad and/or the Pro controller, right?
And on that note, you clearly don't own a PS3, because if you did, you would know that the memory card issue is also not an issue, and they could just have digital memory cards.
Your ignorance does not amuse me.

how do you transfer ps2 saves to ps3 legitly? Is it really "backwards compatible" if you can't use your old memory-card? seems closer to emulation.

You don't transfer them. You can't transfer them. That's not what I said or what I'm saying. I'm saying if you can download PS2 games and the PS3 has a digital memory card system that saves the data. You're not gonna be able to transfer your memory card data to the Wii-U. That's not the point. It would be nice, but it wouldn't be smart financially and really isn't that big of a deal.

I'm 100% sure it'd be on the lines of
"Save you Wii game to an SD card and use the WiiU SD card slot to transfer them to the memory".


The Miiverse looks cool but after playing around with Playstation Home it's going to those annoyances like: Advert spamming, perverts and annoying gamers who know nothing.
Overall though I think it'll be good.

[agentkuo]

(08-28-2012 04:40 AM)BumblebeeCody Wrote:  

(08-27-2012 08:09 AM)agentkuo Wrote:  

(08-27-2012 06:36 AM)Skarro Wrote:  

(08-27-2012 02:08 AM)agentkuo Wrote:  You do understand that everything necessary to play GC games is on the Wii-U gamepad and/or the Pro controller, right?
And on that note, you clearly don't own a PS3, because if you did, you would know that the memory card issue is also not an issue, and they could just have digital memory cards.
Your ignorance does not amuse me.

how do you transfer ps2 saves to ps3 legitly? Is it really "backwards compatible" if you can't use your old memory-card? seems closer to emulation.

You don't transfer them. You can't transfer them. That's not what I said or what I'm saying. I'm saying if you can download PS2 games and the PS3 has a digital memory card system that saves the data. You're not gonna be able to transfer your memory card data to the Wii-U. That's not the point. It would be nice, but it wouldn't be smart financially and really isn't that big of a deal.

I'm 100% sure it'd be on the lines of
"Save you Wii game to an SD card and use the WiiU SD card slot to transfer them to the memory".

For Wii saves, yes, that wasn't a question. He's talking about Gamcube game saves.

Quote:The Miiverse looks cool but after playing around with Playstation Home it's going to those annoyances like: Advert spamming, perverts and annoying gamers who know nothing.
Overall though I think it'll be good.

I never even go in PSHome. It's boring. However, Miiverse isn't the same idea. Miiverse, from what I can tell, is the ability to get in touch with other gamers during gameplay (You can't visit Home during gameplay on PS3). It seems to just be a place for your friends and other Wii-U owners to come together and discuss (almost like a forum or message board).

[Skarro]

Agentkuo -- I don't care if thats not what you were talking about, you responded to me implying I was dumb for saying it can't be backwards compatible. What you have defined is NOT backwards compatible. Therefor it is still impossible for the wiiU to be GC backwards compatible, Emulating it is different, for one you can't use all the accessories you bought or use the saves you've accomplished.. that was MY point.

Miiverse --First of all i think you are referring to "Mii Wara Wara" as the PlayStation home clone. Miiverse is actually the network (like PSN or something) An example of this is how the Fifa developers say Fifa pulls your "miiverse" data and friends list for its own network ingame.

It's everything from local accounts to friends to worldwide.

It will not be spammed with ads and perverts because anything posted regionally/globally will have a half hour delay and go through a screening by Nintendo. This goes for messages and drawings. (They said something about a rep system, so those who post normally for a long time wont get delays and people who get screened alot will get very long delays, only read about this once and didn't fully understand it)

[agentkuo]

(08-28-2012 12:43 PM)Skarro Wrote:  Agentkuo -- I don't care if thats not what you were talking about, you responded to me implying I was dumb for saying it can't be backwards compatible. What you have defined is NOT backwards compatible. Therefor it is still impossible for the wiiU to be GC backwards compatible, Emulating it is different, for one you can't use all the accessories you bought or use the saves you've accomplished.. that was MY point.

If this is the issue you're concerned about, why didn't you bring it up in your original response? I didn't imply you were dumb. I stated that Gamecube games would likely be downloadable (and they likely will be).

I said "Gamecube games are not backwards compatible. They've already confirmed this. They will likely be downloadable. "

And you replied: "How could they be? There is no hole for GC controllers or Memory Cards haha ".

At this point I assumed we had moved on from whether or not the Wii-U was backwards compatible. (I already stated that it was confirmed it wasn't. So there would be no point in arguing that it would be possible.) So I took it that your response was in response to my comment, "They will likely be downloadable". And thought that what you were saying was: "How could they [gamecube games] be [downloadable]? There is no hole for GC controllers or memory card haha". and not "How could they [gamecube games] be [backwards compatible]? There is no hole for GC controllers or memory card haha"

This is why I responded the way I did. I was attempting to justify how you could play gamecube games without needing a gamecube controller or memory card by comparing it to how they handle the same situation on the PS3. At no point was I trying to show or argue how the Wii-U could be backwards compatible with Gamecube games. That thought was completely out of my mind at this point (I had moved on from that point, and assumed you had too).

And now, for some reason, in this reply, you go off on my like I'm an idiot. Telling me I was trying to imply you were dumb, when that was never my intention. I was simply standing by my case (that the Wii-U is not backwards compatible, but it can still play Gamecube games that are downloaded). The whole thing is just a big misunderstanding. There's no need to be hostile about it.

[andriwluke]

Loved watching that video. Well, I agree with Sirion. If our friends and relatives play out some of the same games which we play generally then it becomes easy to find that particular game and this thing really shows the size of the community.

[Skarro]

Big announcments tommorow! Including Price and Launch Date!

"A recap of what the Nintendo Network and Miiverse offer

Free Online Services
DLC
Online Shop containing Virtual Console (including GCN titles), Indy, Freeware and Full Retail Titles
Cross Platform Communication with 3DS, PC, Smartphones and Tablets (at later date)
Video Chat with friends
Account System that connects 3DS eshop and Wii U eshop
Message Boards and messaging system
Achievements (will be posted on Miiverse, not mandatory)
Multiple Levels of Security*
Web Browser w/flash support, private browsing, on controller keyboard
Multimedia services including Netflix, HULU, Youtube, and Amazon
in-game access to Miiverse and Browser
Wifi Connection
Communities
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Things NOT included are as follows.
Twitter and Facebook Apps**
Current Friend Code System
Multi Touch
Ethernet Port
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Things hinted at.
Future services with a price (Basic service will remain free)
Full Retail Eshop Games won't be cheaper

*There are four levels of security. Parental Controls, Content Filter, Community, Human Review. Human review will never happen if the post passes the Content Filter, however, if a user is constantly reported by the Community they may be subject to automatic Human Review.

**Twitter and Facebook apps will not be implemented, and as such you can not 'Link' them for automatic updates. This does not mean you can't access the websites through the browser.

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Also, Iwata has stated that the main focus of the Wii U is to "establish a trusting relationship with third party developers". This is what was done on the 3DS and Iwata claims that he wants to "further improve the situation with the Wii U".
------(Not to be confused with the Wii's "They will come on their own" quote)
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Eshop Purchase options
*Directly from eShop via Credit/Debit Card
*Via purchase code you receive or purchase from someone***
*By Pre-paid download cards aquired via retailer

http://wiiudaily.com/2012/07/nintendo-ex...e-options/

***Perhaps this is a hint at being able to resell digital titles?
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Lastly, Iwata has currently stated that they are not concerned with being most powerful next gen, as has been stated before, and that they believe being first on the market will not give them an advantage. He says that price will be the most determined factor for success for this new console, which correlates with his previous statements that consumers shall be pleased with the price and it will not sell for a loss

[BumblebeeCody]

WiiU announcement streaming service
http://www.nintendo.co.uk/NOE/en_GB/news...47764.html

3PM UK time
Time converstion:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
Hour: 15/3pm Minutes: 00
Location: UK - England - London
Then find your timezone in the second drop down box and click "convert time".

[Zaliphone]

Judging from what Skarro put, I am now infinitely more excited for the WiiU.

[Gardocki]

No ethernet port? Why?

[A Zombie Riot]

Well, I'm not waking up early just to watch it. It'll be covered everywhere when I wake up. Can't wait!

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(09-13-2012 08:20 AM)Gardocki Wrote:  No ethernet port? Why?

Price. It's cheaper to not have an ethernet port than it is to have one.

[Skarro]

(09-13-2012 06:16 AM)Zaliphone Wrote:  Judging from what Skarro put, I am now infinitely more excited for the WiiU.

You should hit my thanks button then..

And I forgot to add original Wii VC and Wiiware confirmed transferable.

[Gardocki]

(09-13-2012 08:56 AM)A Zombie Riot Wrote:  Well, I'm not waking up early just to watch it. It'll be covered everywhere when I wake up. Can't wait!

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(09-13-2012 08:20 AM)Gardocki Wrote:  No ethernet port? Why?

Price. It's cheaper to not have an ethernet port than it is to have one.

Really? I hate using WiFi for a system.