11 Years ago today is the day we all stood in shock. Always Remember. 9/11

[Skarro]

(09-13-2012 12:10 AM)BumblebeeCody Wrote:  @cingchris
Do you know what day the Americans bombed Hiroshima?

On 9/11 2000 people died due to terrorist attacks.
In "true Aemrican" retaliation, 2 million Iraqis, Afghans (and other possible nationalities in those regions). Have been killed. Over 300 000 being civilian casualties and 100+ in this month alone. But who pays respect and tribute to those men and women, or who cares?
America: Too busy watching 2 and Half Men to care, soz.

9/11 Meh.

It's silly to bash Americans for not caring then simultaneously not care about 9/11.
Obviously the closer something is to you the more of an emotional affect is happening too you. That's why you don't cry everytime you read about a death in the paper, but you most likely will if your friend dies.

In your book it seems to be the number of deaths to deem something sympathy worthy. Where as it's great if we can force ourselves too react in that way like in your case, but it's simply not natural. I'm sure more Americans have donated to families in Africa then they have 9/11 victims, and that's what is important, Not they way you personally take it.

[Nicknclank]

I was 5 year old when that happened, so I didn't really care back then. Actually, some years later (maybe 3?), my mom was watching a video of the first tower burning and the second plane crashing. I was next to her and watching the video... she didn't want me to, but I watched anyway. And for an explainable reason, I didn't care, I was 5. I thought that the video was showing something happening ON one of the towers, since there was smoke coming out of it. So yeah, dumb me.

My mom then told me a little of what happened. I was kinda sad that people had to die, but then again, I was dumb, so I didn't care if a few 20 people died (I thought that many people died because of it when I was young). Plus, I'm french Canadian, so I thought "Who would want to f**k with us?"

Now that I'm older, I understand the meaning of the terrorist attack, and I feel terrible about it. I remember yesterday, I saw some photos of the event. The 2 that mainly struck me was the image of a guy that SURVIVED the attack when he was on the 78th FLOOR. The second one was the picture of a man falling to his death... I have trouble explaining what I feel about this.

[A Zombie Riot]

(09-13-2012 09:52 AM)Nicknclank Wrote:  I was 5 year old when that happened, so I didn't really care back then. Actually, some years later (maybe 3?), my mom was watching a video of the first tower burning and the second plane crashing. I was next to her and watching the video... she didn't want me to, but I watched anyway. And for an explainable reason, I didn't care, I was 5. I thought that the video was showing something happening ON one of the towers, since there was smoke coming out of it. So yeah, dumb me.

My mom then told me a little of what happened. I was kinda sad that people had to die, but then again, I was dumb, so I didn't care if a few 20 people died (I thought that many people died because of it when I was young). Plus, I'm french Canadian, so I thought "Who would want to f**k with us?"

Now that I'm older, I understand the meaning of the terrorist attack, and I feel terrible about it. I remember yesterday, I saw some photos of the event. The 2 that mainly struck me was the image of a guy that SURVIVED the attack when he was on the 78th FLOOR. The second one was the picture of a man falling to his death... I have trouble explaining what I feel about this.

There was a show on history channel yesterday called "102 minutes that changed our lives" or something like that. And it's the events of 9/11 through peoples eyes. Like some girls living in an apartment or something and were filming it while it was happening. And they were recording pretty much everything.

The part that gets me, is watching the people jump out of the building(s).

I just cannot imagine being there and how freaking scary it had to of been knowing we were getting attacked by terrorists.

[Seydou]

I was 7,and just in that day I decided to not got to School.I was watching Dragon Ball,when they interrupted the transmission to show the attack.

[BumblebeeCody]

(09-13-2012 06:05 AM)cingchris Wrote:  @BumblebeeCody

Umm...excuse me? I'm sorry but you are going to have to spell out the point you are trying to make and why. I have a guess as to what you are getting at but I have no clue what I could have said to make you try to say that, so I'm just gonna not assume and just ask for clarification before I say anything.

My point is that it's funny to point out NOT knowing what the date is (Because 9/11 is soooo important) yet not acknowledge any other important dates in history.

@Skarro
It's silly Americans consider themselves important. I live in London and yet we were attacked (The 7/7) bombings. The next day they opened up the tube lines. 2 years after, and everyone got on with their lives. There's no "this is the worst day in British history days etc". Not just Britain, but the countries such as Istanbul (2 days ago) were attacked.

Americans; more than 11 years on, still consider it to be the worst attack in history yet they've committed far worse on countries like Iraq and Japan than any other country and are still being committed as we speak.
Why would I care about America being attacked when they've done far worse?

[cingchris]

The point you made to Skarro I agree with man, and to explain why I thought it was funny that my teacher didn't know the date, is because it becomes a topic of discussion here (this thread is a perfect example of that) because like you said for some reason we didn't move on yet, I mean I had no idea it was 9/11 until the beginning of my psychology class, which is taught by the teacher that also teaches the government classes, so we watched a video.

[Ouberry_13]

I'm a bit similar to cingchris,though I stopped caring for a bit more than his one reason;
1: Because, yes, it was 11 years ago (honestly, I felt this way even after 2 or 3 years after the event, go ahead and call me a heartless bastard), so why should I care anymore? What happened, happened.
2: After losing what amounts to a handful of innocent civilians, the US army went out of its way to go attack over a million innocent citizens in the Middle East, most of those citizens were from countries that had absolutely no tie with the terrorist group.
3: I simply think there's no reason to have this whole "That one day" mentality of it, since we no longer hold that mentality for worse events from US history.
And yes, I do feel a little sadness for the people who lost their family members, but you know what? It's the same sort of fleeting sadness I feel whenever one of those ASPCA commercials pops up. I feel bad for a few minutes before going back to what I was doing before. Again, you can call me a heartless bastard for my views, I don't care what you call me. But, it's just how I see it.

[Skarro]

(09-14-2012 12:57 AM)BumblebeeCody Wrote:  

(09-13-2012 06:05 AM)cingchris Wrote:  @BumblebeeCody

Umm...excuse me? I'm sorry but you are going to have to spell out the point you are trying to make and why. I have a guess as to what you are getting at but I have no clue what I could have said to make you try to say that, so I'm just gonna not assume and just ask for clarification before I say anything.

My point is that it's funny to point out NOT knowing what the date is (Because 9/11 is soooo important) yet not acknowledge any other important dates in history.

@Skarro
It's silly Americans consider themselves important. I live in London and yet we were attacked (The 7/7) bombings. The next day they opened up the tube lines. 2 years after, and everyone got on with their lives. There's no "this is the worst day in British history days etc". Not just Britain, but the countries such as Istanbul (2 days ago) were attacked.

Americans; more than 11 years on, still consider it to be the worst attack in history yet they've committed far worse on countries like Iraq and Japan than any other country and are still being committed as we speak.
Why would I care about America being attacked when they've done far worse?

Americans have yet to do a purposeful massive civilian focused murder on anyone outside of the US. If the army could press a button to give the civilians immunity in Japan and Iraq they would. Notice how more people have died in their army then in 9/11 yet they still mourn 9/11 more. There is a difference between casualties of war and murder.

And congrats on Britain not caring after 2 years, maybe American's will beat you next time in this race to see who can care the least to be better people.

Edit: And about you not caring about the Americans who died because America has done far worse is completely ridiculous, as if those people have had any connection to anything their army has done what-so-ever. That's like saying we shouldn't care if Germans get murdered because of Hitler. If Britain decided to murder a million people against YOUR will i'm sure people should still mourn you.

It feels like your just trying to justify your personal sociopathy.

Edit2: I'm Canadian btw.

[Berry]

(09-12-2012 10:57 AM)Arjahn Wrote:  

(09-12-2012 04:49 AM)Berry Wrote:  

(09-12-2012 03:54 AM)A Zombie Riot Wrote:  I never said it was the darkest, I said it was one of the darkest days.

Heck, the first 7 words are "One of the darkest days in history."

You're not saying the day wasn't dark for ALL of those people who lost lives that day? Ok.

IN HISTORY,you left that part out.Because most parts from the other side that is not USA(like i dunno,Russia, Iraq etc.) are happy about it.

Though when i heard about,I felt sad.
Nowadays,I keep hearing my colleagues arguing that America deserve it and what not.

Dude, stop saying shit you don't have any clue about for other countries's feelings of events. Niether Russia nor Iraq were "happy" about it, especially not Iraq after the U.S. sent in the cavalry based on speculation...
Anhow, my thoughts on the matter are as follows: I don't know what the hell happened, and I'm pissed about it. I'm in the middle, leaning towards the conspiracy theory side, not because they make a ton of sense, but because they make more sense than what we're being fed here in the good 'ol US of A. The government has admitted to lying to the people in the past over matters of alleged attacks, namely the Gulf of Tauken incident, and they haven't released shit about what actually happened on 9/11, so I'm not buying what little they did say. That being said, to put it in perspective, it's not the darkest day in history of civilization, just saying.

Well there's my two pesos, not trying to enrage anybody, just stating my opinion. Oh, and I do feel bad for those who died and those who continue to die in this perpetual war, as well as their family members.

All i know is that where i live right now is saying bullshit on 9/11.

And lets not forget that America has been using bombs on Iraq even before 9/11 started,in the process destroying their homeland on what use to be a good place now it looks like a desert. Apparently history hasn't taught you that now has it. America has done far more worse than the 9/11 attack.

Apparently your conspiracy theories are good enough to explain america problem but take it to account that other countries is part of the world too.

And lets not forget the Hiroshima attack either.More people died from that than the 9/11 but who cares.

The way i see it, America is the Bully.And when somebody stands up for themselves to the bully,Good or Bad.The Bully won't stand for it.

Why would i care that America got attack,sure i would pay my respect but come on,No one is bitching that there country got attack.Not one Attack is worth the amount of stupid Conspiracy theories there thinking.

Note: Apparently "I Dunno" doesn't go to your vocabulary now does it.It means "i don't know i'm just making examples"

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@Skarro

Skarro Wrote:Edit: And about you not caring about the Americans who died because America has done far worse is completely ridiculous, as if those people have had any connection to anything their army has done what-so-ever. That's like saying we shouldn't care if Germans get murdered because of Hitler. If Britain decided to murder a million people against YOUR will i'm sure people should still mourn you.

Actually if I recall correctly America joined the world war 2 because Japan decided to bomb The pearl harbor.
They would care lass what happened to germany.
And America already decided to send a millions of people to hell when the Iraq War Started.

[cingchris]

*sigh* Well this is what happens when you make this kind of thread on a forum that has international members on it. Anyway Berry and anyone else that thinks like that well I'll tell you yes America is a horrible fucking nation where the majority of people that live here are self absorbed assholes who only look at themselves and never the world around them, but not all of us are like that you know. Anyway I'm fucking staying out of this one from now on it's just gonna be a giant America hate fest from here on out, and to be honest we deserve it. (Also Berry as a side note just so I can also inform you of something you left out or didn't know about when making your point to Skarro about WW2, we were sending weapons and tanks and many other things to Europe to help the war effort way before we got attacked,and that is the reason we were attacked.)

[Berry]

(09-15-2012 09:28 AM)cingchris Wrote:  *sigh* Well this is what happens when you make this kind of thread on a forum that has international members on it. Anyway Berry and anyone else that thinks like that well I'll tell you yes America is a horrible fucking nation where the majority of people that live here are self absorbed assholes who only look at themselves and never the world around them, but not all of us are like that you know. Anyway I'm fucking staying out of this one from now on it's just gonna be a giant America hate fest from here on out, and to be honest we deserve it. (Also Berry as a side note just so I can also inform you of something you left out or didn't know about when making your point to Skarro about WW2, we were sending weapons and tanks and many other things to Europe to help the war effort way before we got attacked,and that is the reason we were attacked.)

I don't actually hate america,It's just that i meet people who has gone racist or making Illegal jokes about me whenever i visit america in the summer.Hell,when they announce the 9/11 broadcast.People has actually tried to pick fights with me because they thought i was Muslim for god sake. And yes i admit it, i've gone too far and personal.I apologize to any people who may found offended to my comments,It really annoys me when people starts going all crazy because of one attack. This is my sincere opinion,and didn't meant to offend any Americans.

[The Antagonist]

9 years old, I was at home with my mother watching all of it live. I remember my mother crying and I knew what was happening but didn't thought that the situation was that serious. I remember seeing the second plane hit the second tower... people jumping, waving for help, and then, the collapse with smoke everywhere.

[Sirion]

They stopped a Dragon Ball Z episode to do a live cover on the event. For me, by then, that was the true crime.

I was only nine, though. Don't judge me.

But every year people here remember and mourn the day terrorists stopped us from seeing the adventures of Goku and friends.

[Xannidel]

Okay guys let's move this topic back on hand.

[BumblebeeCody]

(09-14-2012 11:22 PM)Skarro Wrote:  Americans have yet to do a purposeful massive civilian focused murder on anyone outside of the US. If the army could press a button to give the civilians immunity in Japan and Iraq they would. Notice how more people have died in their army then in 9/11 yet they still mourn 9/11 more. There is a difference between casualties of war and murder.
True but there is a difference if the casualties are caused by those innocent people. The reason the Americans ruined Iraq is because they wanted to. They called for the invasion of Iraq for revenge. The deaths of 9/11 are trivial compared to what the American people wanted on another country. They call for deaths of Al Qaeda and Osama. Fine, why not? But they end up killing 2million+ people and realising after 10 years, Osama was in the wrong country. Americans people don't care about the deaths now.

And congrats on Britain not caring after 2 years, maybe American's will beat you next time in this race to see who can care the least to be better people.
You're missing the point. This isn't about no-one giving a crap. It was about the citizens getting on with their lives without acting all "patriotic" like Americans do.

Edit: And about you not caring about the Americans who died because America has done far worse is completely ridiculous, as if those people have had any connection to anything their army has done what-so-ever. That's the complete opposite of what I'm saying and NOT what I am saying. I'm not saying ANY attack is good. But what I am saying, is I fail to care so much about that one event when the consequential event is far worse. Again, remember what country and "innocent people" wanted to go to war.... That's like saying we shouldn't care if Germans get murdered because of Hitler.What? If Britain decided to murder a million people against YOUR will i'm sure people should still mourn you.Again what?

It feels like your just trying to justify your personal sociopathy. Yes and we should. It's well over 10 years and so many Americans consider 9/11 a huge loss, yet they never recognise what they've done to other countries in return. 9/11 was a graze on the knee compared to the massive stab wound in the back of Iraq and Afghanistan.

Edit2: I'm Canadian btw.