What makes a game a game?

[BumblebeeCody]

(01-01-2013 03:26 AM)Arjahn Wrote:  Hmm, I'm sort of conflicted now after looking into the Win/lose states point. I mean, without it you could classify a DVD menu as a videogame under the "interactive electronic entertainment" argument. If there is no way to alter the outcome at all, then it does become a lot more borderline.

Exactly. A game, like I said before, can't be measured by what's generally considered a game now. A DVD menu can be considered a game IF(!) you make it out to be one. It may not have been designed for that purpose but if you can turn into a game, it's a game. I remember the Dumb and Dumber DVD had a hidden game where you could fire corks at an owl(as reference to the movie).
There are others like the Wikipedia game which people will find fun....ehh. It's really pushing it, but it still counts. I consider it to be what the developer is thinking. Dear Esther and Megaman, both designed to be a game but two very different styles.